I also agree that anti-witnessing is a great way to start seeding doubts in people. Also, staying respectful and friendly helps a lot too. Yelling and slamming the door in witnesses faces does nothing except affirm that they "have the truth". But respectfully discussing things can cause the doubt to grow. I remember encountering a few people in service who managed to seed some doubts in me that I'm certain led to me later waking up. Like the humanist who knew a lot about religion, he might have actually been an ex-JW thinking back on it, who raised a lot of questions I couldn't answer. Now I see myself as a humanist. Funny how things work sometimes.
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Weekend visit from JWs.
by redvip2000 inhad a visit from the jws this week.
i've lived in this house since 2012 and this is the first time, they have reached me at home - quite the urgent work.. anyway, i was home on saturday morning and around 10am, there was a knock.
i had a feeling it would be them.
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What should I visit while in New York
by wannaexit ini am planning a trip to new york and trying to develop an itinerary.
t will be my first time.
what do you suggest i see?
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What should I visit while in New York
by wannaexit ini am planning a trip to new york and trying to develop an itinerary.
t will be my first time.
what do you suggest i see?
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NYC is my favourite city in the world and try to visit at least once s year. In fact, I'll be there next weekend.
Everyone's suggestions are really good and I'll second the Brooklyn Bridge and Top of the Rock suggestions as both are my favourite things to do. I suggest taking a subway to the Brooklyn side of the Brooklyn Bridge, eating dinner at one of the many good restaurants around there (I suggest Juliana's Pizza is you like pizza) and walking across the Brooklyn Bridge towards Manhattan when it's dark. Might be the highlight of your trip.
i also recommend taking the free Staten Island ferry to see the Statue of Liberty. Although it doesn't go to the island with the statute of Liberty, it goes very close so you can get great pictures. Can't argue with free.
NYC is a perfect walking city so I also just like picking a neighbourhood and exploring it. I like the Free Tours By Foot tour company. They are walking tours with a group of people and a guide. They are free except for a tip for your guide at the end of the tour. $10 or $20 per person is usually what I pay. They have a lot of 2 hour tours, food tours, and even 6 hour all in one tours. The first time I went to NYC I did an all in one 6 hour your after reading about this tour company on trip advisor and it was the best decision I ever made. Saw so much and had so much fun. Now I do their tours whenever I'm there. This trip I'm doing 3 different 2 hour tours.
Hope you have a good time!
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Fade question: New Cong or stay.
by Darkknight757 ini have a question with regard to fading.
the wife and i have plans to move to another hall and continue our fade from the organization.
we are already missing quite a few meetings and we are not reporting time.
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The hall I moved to is 30-45 minutes away and it worked perfectly. I agree with Lee Elder, try to find one far enough away, but not too far that going to your 1-3 meetings isn't too much of a chore. Try to find out when they receive your records. I got lucky when the COBE told me before one of the few meetings I attended in the new hall that they received my records. That turned out to be my last ever meeting. -
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Fade question: New Cong or stay.
by Darkknight757 ini have a question with regard to fading.
the wife and i have plans to move to another hall and continue our fade from the organization.
we are already missing quite a few meetings and we are not reporting time.
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Fade question: New Cong or stay.
by Darkknight757 ini have a question with regard to fading.
the wife and i have plans to move to another hall and continue our fade from the organization.
we are already missing quite a few meetings and we are not reporting time.
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I moved halls in order to fade. They received my records the first week of July and I completely stopped everything right after. I have never once had an elder try to talk to me from that hall or from my old one. As far as my old hall is concerned, they think I moved away. The new hall probably doesn't even remember who I am. My meeting attendance in the new hall was sporadic at best before my records arrived and I didn't go out in service, so I didn't leave enough of a mark for anyone to remember me when the time came to disappear. -
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Special Talk from the GB?
by punkofnice ina current jw told me there was going to be a special talk (tm) from the governing body(r) next month.
apart from the usual hilarious jw tv stuff, i haven't heard of anything.. any info any one?
the jw didn't seem to know much either.
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Zone meetings happen every year so they're not special. The rank and file slaps the special label on anything they can to get themselves excited. If any of the zone meeting's talks, like at least one talk at the US zone meeting, are given by GB members, some interesting things might be said. But the bigger stuff always happens at the annual meeting in October and the summer convention. The zone meeting is usually just full of experiences, not nu light.
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Special Talk from the GB?
by punkofnice ina current jw told me there was going to be a special talk (tm) from the governing body(r) next month.
apart from the usual hilarious jw tv stuff, i haven't heard of anything.. any info any one?
the jw didn't seem to know much either.
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Survey: How long were you in the cult vs what year you were baptized
by ILoveTTATT2 inhi people,.
i want as much data as possible on the effect of the internet on the time captured by the cult.. please answer the three following questions about yourself or about someone you know (for example, if your parents or grandparents were jw's and left).
1) were you raised as a jw, or did you convert?.
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1) Raised
2) Baptized: 2000
3) I started waking up in 2003 but didn't actually leave until 2015.
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Canada zone visit March 2016
by Richard_I incanada's getting a zone visit in march 2016, but no mention of who's doing the visit.
praying it's anthony morris and we get our own tight pants talk.
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The Big Machine
David Splane was at the international convention in Montreal sometime in the early 2000s (I can't remember what year it was).
He also visited one of the local congs in Ottawa a couple of times over the past 10 years since his wife is related to one of the elders there.
Anthony Morris gave the Canadian zone talk a few years ago. I can't remember exactly what he said in it other than he appeared very smug and I left the assembly hall thinking there's no way I'm surviving armageddon since I'm not pioneering. Luckily, I was already on the way out at that point and his talk just hastened my waking up.